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    Hello,
    I just bought a vps server from virpus a less than 72 hours ago and I have less than 7 shoutcast servers running at low bitrate with no more than 10 listeners evened out on them and now they say I have used over 5000GB Bandwidth? What is going on here seems like a scam.
    Here is there site http://www.virpusservers.com/

    Here is the chat message:

    Camron: servers offline?

    You are now speaking with Kenneth O. of Support.

    Kenneth O.: Camron, do you have a number I can reach you on right now?

    Camron: Phone number?

    Kenneth O.: yes

    Camron: Well actualy I usualy don't talk to people online via phone as I have to pay for long distance.

    Camron: And my cell phone was stolen....

    Camron: Well is it really necessary to do this via phone as why not do this here.

    Camron: Are you there?

    Kenneth O.: I am, one second

    Camron: Just making sure because sometimes we get cut off from live chat

    Kenneth O.: Did you know you have utilize 10mbps of bandwidth?


    Camron: What??

    Camron: This means?

    Camron: I have went over bandwidth?

    Kenneth O.: Thats over 3000GB of bandwidth

    Camron: Impossible

    Kenneth O.: You went hella over.

    Camron: Thats impossible

    Kenneth O.: Have you seen any suspecious activity on your VPS?

    Camron: No I have not. But I have been monitoring all of the shoutcast so its really impossible to have 8 shoucast not getting over 40 listeners to get over 3k gb bandwith, was I hacked?

    Camron: My friend knows how to edit the config file for bandwidth overages since he is cheating his customers, he has acess to my vps maby he did it?

    Kenneth O.: Your VPS is the only one that isnt started right now. Right after I stopped it, there was a dramatic decrease.

    Camron: Wow this is very crazy I have no idea how this happened.

    Kenneth O.: Nick would like to do further analysis with you on live chat.

    Camron: Thanks.

    Kenneth O.: One moment please.

    Camron: Ok

    Please hold while being transferred to Nick R. of Support.

    You are now speaking with Nick R. of Support.

    Nick R.: Hello

    Camron: Hello Nick,

    Nick R.: One moment

    Camron: Thanks.

    Nick R.: Ok, you understand your bandwidth usage was over 9.1mbps correct?

    Camron: Well really I had no idea until I just came into live chat.

    Camron: It is virtual impossible to have this happen since I am only hosting a few very small shoutcast servers

    Nick R.: how many shoutcast listeners do you have? at how many kbps each?

    Camron: Lets see

    Camron: The only big one I have is bluestarfm which is broadcasting at 64kbps and about 40 listeners, the rest is about 1-20 listeners at 54kbps.

    Camron: Only 7 total about.

    Nick R.: 20 x 7 x 54kbps

    Camron: 7MB?

    Camron: 7.5

    Camron: Only running for about 3 days?

    Nick R.: Do you understand how bandwidth is distributed?

    Camron: Not really but I am just very careful about using it.

    Camron: I watch bandwidth like a hawk thats why I make sure I am not going to go over, but 3kGB is very rediculous.

    Nick R.: Well, bandwidth is measured per second

    Nick R.: for example 1mbps is 1024 kbps we buy in bulk from the providers

    Nick R.: All of our vps servers have a 10mbit dedicated port

    Camron: Can I ask this, I had way more shoutcast than this on another server running 24/7 for 30 days and it did not even use 100GB

    Nick R.: I don't know anything about it unless you can provide me some logs to it

    Camron: Well I have left my old provider and to you because of better service. So what happens now.

    Nick R.: You will need to purchase at least an 8mbit line to continue service

    Camron: How much will this cost.

    Nick R.: One moment

    Camron: Alright

    Nick R.: You will be looking at about 700/mo


    Camron: Wow....

    Nick R.: You were on course to use over 8TB of bandwidth this month

    Camron: Can you provide me with logs that I went over bandwidth?

    Nick R.: 8,192 GigaBytes

    Nick R.: Yes

    Camron: Alright I would like to see them please.

    Nick R.: Not a problem let me get them and I will get you a copy

    Camron: Ok thanks.

    Nick R.: I will also show you our graph of 5 minutes before your vps was turned off and 5 minutes after it was turned off

    Camron: Ok

    Nick R.: Do you know howto read military time?

    Camron: Also there really is no way that I used this much, maby there was a way that someone hacked me. My friend knows how to edit bandwidht logs in directadmin and he cheats his customers. he has acess to my vps, maby he did this? Maby you should ask the datacenter if w ereally used this much instead of looking at logs.

    Nick R.: I am looking at the port graph right now

    Camron: Ok thanks.

    Nick R.: bluvapor@gmail.com ?

    Camron: Yes

    Nick R.: Ok I have emailed it, please let me know when you recive it

    Camron: Ok

    Camron: I have not recieved it yet

    Camron: Ok I got it im going to look at it now

    Nick R.: I am also getting your log

    Camron: I see no where it says 3000gb?

    Nick R.: look at the mbps

    Camron: Oh ok

    Camron:

    Nick R.: You are the only customer on this box as of today
    (ps ^^ lies)

    Camron: Can you also check into this more

    Camron: Possibly it was a http bomber sending multiple things to the site jumping the bandwidth?

    Nick R.: One moment

    Nick R.: I was wrong you were actualy looking around 5,500 GB
    (now he wants more money eh?^^)

    Nick R.: at peak average 3200gb

    Camron: Can I ask you a blunt question?

    Nick R.: Yes

    Camron: Why are you trying to scam me. I just had 2 people look at this and they said this "no way in hell you used that much" these 2 people are both graduates for computer internet technology.

    Nick R.: I had a system admin call me about your bandwidth usage I assure you it is not a scam

    Nick R.: Every system admin virpus networks deals with has at least 10 years experiance

    Camron: How old are you Nick?

    Nick R.: I am 18 years old

    Camron: So you started working on servers when you were 8 years old?


    Nick R.: I never said I was the tech did I?
    (yes he did ^^)

    Nick R.: We have several employees, and independant contractors

    Camron: Dont get smart with me, Who owns this company?

    Nick R.: I do

    Nick R.: Look it up

    Camron: Because it looks like your domain was registered this year...

    Nick R.: Registered

    Camron: Yes

    Camron: So are you getting money from people and running with it?

    Nick R.: LOL, I have contracts with dell longer than you could imagine

    Camron: Really, how long. Since you where 8?

    Camron: Tell me I am interested

    Nick R.: We have plenty of customers that are still very much fine

    Camron: Until they find out they have used over 5T bandwidth?


    Nick R.: We are happy to allow this, we just must contact the client and make sure they know about overage charges for huge spikes

    Camron: Well then, I do not think this is a funny situation. Because I did not get my "months worth" of hosting, can I have my $20 back.

    Nick R.: I can provide you any form of evidence you wish sir, We have your complete history documented

    Camron: Thats fine, But still I would like to request a refund. I only purchased 3 days ago and any item sold in the usa purchased within 72 hours can be refunded exactly stated by the government

    Your party has left this session.
    I was scammed...

    I just dont have good luck these days, 2 scams in 1 month :ranting:


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    Taht really sucks Thats why I always stick to free hosts. You don't get any of this scam rubbish. Maybe in the furture just try stickig with te main hoster with great reputations such as GoDaddy etc.

    I hope this doesn't happen to you again and hopefully this host will either get shut down, or explain if there was some problem with their server os something.

    Mark

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    you know maybe you could sue theem Im not sure if you can but other then that you got Nick guy in the Ropes hehe i can help :\ aLl i have to do is swear at them like crazy telling them ill sue them as your lawyer LOL

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    You do have them contradicting themselves in that statement, I would go get some legal advise and ask if there is anything that can be done or shame them.

    some people think its wrong to shame companies but the customer is always right if you bought a mini-system from Sony at 48 hours later it broke would you take it back, I think your in a very good position to act against them.

    I would suggest posting it on other webmaster forums see if anyone contacts you saying they have also have problems. Remember don't lost your temper the moment you lose your temper you will miss key facts and lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eponnox
    You do have them contradicting themselves in that statement, I would go get some legal advise and ask if there is anything that can be done or shame them.

    some people think its wrong to shame companies but the customer is always right if you bought a mini-system from Sony at 48 hours later it broke would you take it back, I think your in a very good position to act against them.

    I would suggest posting it on other webmaster forums see if anyone contacts you saying they have also have problems. Remember don't lost your temper the moment you lose your temper you will miss key facts and lose

    HEhe im too young to be a lawyer and i think that this would be a great idea . If you ask people to help around some forums well you'll have some great help !

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    heh, 18 year old having a 10 years of experiance and has his own company. Lol, you just got scammed by an 18 year old kid. I always try to host on reputed servers like sagonet.com or something. He changed the fake value of 700gb/m to 5,500 gb. But thier site seems pretty convincing enough to fool anyone.

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    Yea i don't like to go on someone's site that isn't even reputative or how ever you say that . Maybe you can get out of this and print out this conversation and maybe have a record of it and try to do whatever you can to give them the chilli they deserve

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    thats why i prefer reputable host provider and on my List i always prefer hosting from Globat.com & Bluehost.com they can never cheat us like that , even though they maybe costly but they guarentee you good service, without unpredicted account suspends or so.

    P.S - i dunno if we can link to other hostsites i mean like i have linked globat and blue host ,i am sorry if its against rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayabusa
    P.S - i dunno if we can link to other hostsites i mean like i have linked globat and blue host ,i am sorry if its against rules.
    Its alright providing there is no referal link and they don't offer the same services as us. ie Posting for hosting/domains etc

    Also I might be looking to pay for hosting so if you say these host are reputable I might try them

    Mark

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    Hmm i have no idea of what are good but if you are part of INSTANTPROFITZ then they have offers that make you sign up for hosting which you have to pay for so you can check that out

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