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    Default Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator

    According to science our universe has a beginning. (search at “age of the universe” on Pnas (scientific journal). Time is purely physical. Therefore there can be no such thing as time external to the physical universe. Timespace has a beginning.

    It is a fundamental law of physics (causality) that every physical occurrence in the universe has a cause.
    The fundamental laws of physics then require a cause of the universe ex nihilo (since timespace has a beginning); i.e., a Prime Cause Singularity that is non-dimensional and independent of timespace.

    Being logically consistent (orderly), the perfectly-orderly universe must mirror its Prime Cause / Singularity-Creator—Who must be Perfectly Orderly; i.e. Perfect.

    An orderly—"not capricious," as Einstein put it—Creator (also implying Just), therefore, necessarily had an Intelligent Purpose in creating this universe and us within it and, being Just and Orderly, necessarily placed an explanation, a "Life's Instruction Manual," within the reach of His subjects—humankind.

    It defies the orderliness (logic / mathematics) of both the universe and Perfection of its Creator to assert that humanity was (contrary to His Tor•?h′ , see below) without any means of rapproachment until millennia after the first couple in recorded history as well as millennia after Abraham, Moses and the prophets. Therefore, the Creator's "Life's Instruction Manual" has been available to man at least since the beginning of recorded history. The only enduring document of this kind is the Tor•?h′ —which, interestingly, translates to "Instruction" (not "law" as popularly alleged). (Source and further reading of how to relate to the Creator: google Netzarim (make sure it is in Ra’anana in Israel)

    The fact that the Creator is perfect implies that He isn’t self-contradictory. Therefore any religion that contradicts Torah is the antithesis to the Creator.


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    Essentially you can't use physics or science at all to prove anything to do with creationism. Our science and physics are very young and not fully proven in compared to the whole universe. You either believe or you don't.

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    Default lets leave atheist - thesist arguments

    these arguments will neer give fruitful results
    the arguments and proofs are incomplete
    let people live in their belief towards truth

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    Purely on an observational level, I've never seen anything orderly come out of an explosion of any sort; and most things left to themselves devolve or degenerate, so it only seems logical that some intelligent force, whatever one chooses to call that force, had to have set the universe in motion and established the laws by which it operates, or it surely would have fallen apart by now. That said, I kind of doubt that force bothers to involve itself in the individual lives of the creatures on one small and insignificant speck in all the vastness of the universe. I suspect it's gone on to other projects long since.

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    There is definitely a creator. Existence of life isn't just merely by chance.

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